Talk:Get Easy Peasy
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[edit] Why is there not a DVD image offered?
My USB drive won't read cd's for some reason, but will boot DVD's...Also it would be good for folks with DVD media....
Well, just burn the ISO onto a DVD. No problem. You don't need a special ISO for DVDs. -- dmwick Oct 3, 2008
[edit] skimming unneccesary languages in Unetbootin
It'd be nice when Unetbootin is used to copy the .iso file to the SD card, that files containing unneccesary languages can be deselected to save some space. I mean, appart from the english,and perhaps my mother thongue I probably don't need all the other language packs. This leaves space for other items that otherwise need to be cut out of the ISO due to space issues.
[edit] download and install
This page is labeled as 'get Ubuntu Eee' but in reality it's both 'download' and 'install' and would be better if it were split in two (which I'd be happy to help with if people agree).
Hi, I'm interested in this comment. Wouldn't the 'download ubuntu eee' article be really small? Please explain why this is a good idea :) --ramvi 21:46, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I was thinking that it'd be worth splitting them so you could have the two important words people would be scanning the front page for, 'download' and 'install', on their own, as individual links, so the page was most easily understandable. At least, that's what I look for when I come upon a new project. They're the actions that I want to do, so it makes sense to have links for each of them so that I can get up and running as quickly as possible. If you think it's a bad idea to have a very short page then I recommend instead that rather than it being called 'Get Ubuntu Eee' that it be 'Download and Install Ubuntu Eee' or something like that. --PeteBoyd 22:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
[edit] (Where are MD5 sums??)
Someone with a better english than i should check the grammar and spellings. If you have any wishes or comments, just post. :) Waffel 17:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, The md5sums are confusing. The md5sum listed are for the easypeasy-1.1.iso while the torrent is for the easypeasy-1.1-img.iso. Additionally the md5sum.txt file on the iso itself includes md5sum.txt which is of course going to show as failed causing more confusion. When did sourceforge stop listing md5sums in the files section? I show:
$md5sum easypeasy-1.* 79298c5699d5f3ae98ee3edad6e43e42 easypeasy-1.1-img.iso 522dcd44bcd23d19434428c67e440059 easypeasy-1.1.iso 6c21aac19609d63999f5087bd6148bbf easypeasy-1.5-beta1.iso
Are these correct?
[edit] Upgrade?
It would be nice to include some information about how to upgrade from a previous install. It seems that you can leave the filesystem untouched in the partioner and then you can import settings from the old account. I am unsure whether there is a way to import anything from Xandros.
Sorry, but Ubuntu Eee can't be upgraded as of now. You will have to do a fresh install.
Sure? What you can do is to install to the existing partition without reformating. Then you can import your settings. As I was unable to install I could not verify that this actually does what it is supposed to do but it is definitely worth a shot.
So, can the upgrade guide say how to backup settings to separate media, install afresh, restore settings. (this would be very useful to those of us who have spent a lot of time getting 8.04 just right and don't want to spend several days repeating the process)
It might also be good to include advice on what to do when an updated kernel appears in the Update Manager. From the dire warnings about not being able upgrade I get the impression that accepting the new kernel through the Update Manager would be a bad choice, but I am not sure.
[edit] Sourceforge
Sourceforge link only shows an 8.04 iso. Please set up the download at Sourceforge again. The Torrent is just incredibly slow.
I don't understand..? The sourceforge download works great. It's the iso that you want.. --ramvi 20:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
More problematically, there are no md5 sums listed...
[edit] Steps for bootable usb stick
Didn't work for me. A)syslinux and parted are not in xandros repositories. Ubuntu repository needs to be added to sources.list B)parted needs to be installed separately with apt-get. C)isostick.sh is failing with: no record for 'sdd1' in database
Partition isn't marked bootable!
You can mark the partition as bootable with
# /sbin/parted /dev//
(parted) toggle N boot
(parted) quit
Cleaning up to exit...
I'm sure I have bootable /dev/sdd1. That's it for me for now..
- The script is broken - I had the same problem. It's a cheap fix, but edit the getdisk() function to just read
- getdisk() {
- device="/dev/sdd"
- }
- I think this is because the xandros running on the eee by default doesn't have a /sys hierachy (I think) and the stick script expects one.
- You'll probably also run into the problem with not being able to find "/casper.vml", due to there being some kind of file length limitation in syslinux ( no offence, but did anyone test this stuff? ) - you can find solutions on google, you just need to move the files into the root and edit the syslinux.cfg
[edit] Not all USB ports are bootable on EEE 900
Just a note: On the EEE 900 (at least on my German model) the left USB port doesn't work for booting the USB stick. I had to move it to the back right one to make it boot.
- Here in Brazil too. But I have a problem when I try to boot: CRC error. I'm trying to install all over again. --201.82.65.123 01:42, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Don't work :( 201.82.65.123 01:52, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Problem getting to the BIOS on Eeee1008
Just a note: On this model I have to press ESC and F2 keys simultaneously to get to the BIOS and change the boot order.
[edit] DD n Mac os x
The mac os x disk restore does not work. its DD with a gui and a jumpdrive can't boot with isolinux - thats for read only media and such. Was this tested before put up on the site (the method of getting Ubuntu eee on the usb drive?)
It comes to my attention that there is no easy to access syslinux utility for mac. I don't have the resources to compile it myself since I'm working with a 3.03 gig ibook g3 otherwise when i'm not using my eee pc.
- Yup, confirmed. Disk Utility CANNOT be used to create a bootable USB memory stick using the 'restore' function. Disk Utility will only restore from a dmg/img or from another mounted volume. I suspect a non-iso image that is bootable needs to be created that can be simply dd'd to the stick from the command line. I've added instructions on how to do this here. There might need to be some fdisk work to make it bootable, also.
- I have removed the mention of this method from the index because it obviously wasn't tested and I've wasted a good hour trying to get it to work. --Chrome 04:53, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Same problem here. An img file like the MID guys have would be perfect though. I converted the iso to img using hdiutils, but that still doesn't make it bootable --Iwein
- An .img file is now available (easypeasy-1.5.img.iso), and renders syslinux unnecessary. The following resulted in a working, bootable USB flash drive for me:
diskutil list
diskutil unmountDisk /dev/disk2
sudo dd if=/tmp/easypeasy-1.5.img.iso of=/dev/disk2 bs=1m
diskutil eject /dev/disk2
[edit] Suggestions for better user interaction
I have an eee and have used Xandros plain and advanced (nuff said - the aged version of Open Office alone disqualifies it!), and the Mandriva 2008.1 offering on an external card. The Mandriva release is quite good on the whole, but their repository has some serious flaws. One side effect was that I was unable to load the driver for my (aged) printer because a Perl file was not available... urpmi also has serious weaknesses. I have no other computer at the moment (my previous Ubuntu portable died of old age), so anything I do to the eee needs to be fairly conservative - I must be able to reverse out if something goes wrong!
Here then are a number of suggestions:-
[edit] 1. External card reader
You need to work out how to do an install to an external card reader WITHOUT gutting another computer. See the Mandriva release at [1] for details.
As an alternative you need to give clear details of whether it is possible to install ubuntu-eee to the internal card WITHOUT damaging the F9 restore facility. In other words, is it possible to leave the "hidden" restore partition strictly alone, and does pressing F9 restore the original MBR? If not, is there another procedure that would do the trick? IMHO ordinary (non-tech) users will be unlikely to want to overwrite the original OS unless they are sure they can get back to the original Xandros distro which at least has the value of being fully functional and having some manufacturer support.
[edit] 2. Repositories
We all know that apt-get and the really good Ubuntu repos are a major reason so many people use this distro. It's certainly true for me (and my 1st Linux had a kernel 0.something, so I've been a Linux user for a v. long time now). Therefore it is v. important that there be a well maintained repository and that users be able to use the Ubuntu repos. It is possible to create a list of packages which must not be touched, and if this were done and included in the apt file system, then it would be possible to use the main Ubuntu repos for just about everything else.
[edit] 3. fstab
IMHO this is one item in your "todo" list that needs to be fixed asap. I don't mind writing fstab entries myself but many ordinary users are (quite unreasonably!) scared of this file!
I won't personally be loading a copy of the distro until at least 1 and preferably 2 are fixed because I can't risk fouling up my one remaining machine, but if they are, then I'd be happy to use it and to contribute some work to it.
[edit] Unetbootin for Ubuntu EEE 8.04 linked to from this page does not appear to work.
Downloaded EEE ubuntu 8.04.1. Click link to download unetbootin. Setup unetbootin as per instructions on page. Attempt to install 8.04.1 by choosing it's iso. Unetbootin completes installation in a few seconds, says all is well. Files are not on USB drive except ldlinux.sys and a few others (taking up only a few kbytes). Downloaded non customized unetbootin, and gave path to iso, and it did properly install the files. Perhaps the link should be changed to standard unetbootin.
[edit] Torrent Tracker
Added a new torrent, hosted by linuxtracker.org. It seems improper to host the iso on a website where illegal torrents abound. Not to mention many people who use linux are still in school, and most schools block the other website.
[edit] Building USB-bootable from preinstalled system (xandros)
I dont know if its possible to build an usb-stick from Xandros, which is preinstalled on Eee. But If, can it be mentioned?
[edit] Inadequate instructions for Mac users
The instructions are inadequate for people without Microsoft Windows. The 'UNetbootin' app apparently doesn't work well with Linux. I've got a Macbook and recently bought? an Asus eeePC. Do I really have to get Microsoft Windows to use Easy Peasy? There's no link on the page for manual instructions on how to create a bootable USB stick. Thanks,¬¬¬¬
[edit] Unetbootin files are gone
Currently the certain Unetbootin-eeubuntu-whatever file doesn't exist in the linked location. Some others do though, but should the source be set to a more stable place that can actually hold the necessary files? I didn't repair the link as I don't have a clue about the version history.
